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Published 16:19 12 Feb 2019 GMT
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"And, I must say, Zebo and Murray give him a hard time. He's intense and he's serious, but he's really funny as well and a good lad. It's just, them boys would [tease] him a wee bit.
"I know for that public persona [of his], he doesn't seem like somebody that would get a hard time but he takes it so well. Them boys just know him so well and they know what way he operates.
"But certainly, on the pitch, he's a leader in so many ways... He demands high standards and he knows the game inside out. And there's always a highlight reel of these two or three massive moments and he's right in the middle of them."New Leinster head coach and Clare All-Ireland winning captain shaped by same man
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