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McHardy: "I think it's fair to say Nigel that we're all card-carrying members of the Sean O'Brien fan-club." Yalden: "Ohhhh, I'm the president buddy. I'm the president! I'd put him right up there with Richie McCaw. I know there will be some Kiwis that will want to curse me to damnation and back again but I think he is literally that good. I think he is quality. Ashby: "Can you play them [Warburton and O'Brien] both?" Yalden: "Their loose forwards have been very impressive in the four games so far. You've got to start Toby Faletau at 8. You would have to play CJ Stander at 6. Isn't that a guy who deserves the opportuinity to play? Who has earned it?" McHardy: "Oh come on! Only the 37 carries in two games... !"We, of course have a simple solution to this debate - O'Mahony, O'Brien, Stander. And if you accused us of being biased, you'd be 100% correct. https://soundcloud.com/nzherald/out-of-the-box-podcast-june-14 O'Mahony and O'Brien get another chance to impress against the Maori All Blacks this weekend and are both so close to securing those Test jerseys. One thing is for sure, the Kiwis believe O'Brien is streets ahead of Lions captain Sam Warburton. It all comes down to one man though - a Kiwi himself but with a northern hemisphere slant - Warren Gatland.

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