'They were saying that the pick of Leinster wouldn't come close to the Limerick U20s' - Honan and Ryall's Leinster vs Munster debate
Munster or Leinster - where are the better hurling counties?
You could spend a whole day on it.
Because it's a debate that, regardless of how long you spend on it, regardless of whether you're talking about the past or the present and regardless of who you're talking to, you'll come no closer to finding a definitive answer.
As things stand, however, the hunch, you'd have to imagine, goes to Munster. Limerick are the kingpins, Clare aren't far behind while Cork, Waterford and Tipp could all beat the majority of teams on their day. There's probably more hype surrounding the Munster championship too but, speaking on The GAA Hour Hurling Show and, as a Leinster man true and true, James Ryall sure does make an interesting point.
"I did have a look," the six-time All-Ireland winner said, "and, I suppose, out of the Leinster teams, if you take the big four, if we can call it that - Kilkenny, Galway, Wexford, Dublin - that created six games in the whole championship and one of them was a draw, two more had one point in it, there was a four point, a six point and then there was Kilkenny's 17 point annihilation of Dublin. But five of the games were really competitive."
"This is me speaking with my Leinster cap firmly on now, but as much as the Munster championship is built up, there were some serious heavy defeats down there and you know it seems to be glossed over a lot."
Clare beat Waterford by 11 and Tipp by eight while Cork beat the Premier by 12. Limerick, meanwhile, beat Cork by 11 and Tipperary by seven. Ryall was on a roll at this stage, and that was when he brought the under-20 All-Ireland into it.
"And take the under-20 championship - on Twitter, I'm not much of a Twitter man now - but during the Leinster U20 final (between Kilkenny and Wexford), they were saying that the pick of Leinster wouldn't come close to Limerick - but then when it came to the All-Ireland, Kilkenny somehow came out and beat Limerick in it. I would wonder, going back to the senior for a second, if you take this Limerick team now, who are the two or three top teams that can most likely take them down, and that's a question I'd ask Darach?"
Watch the debate from 37.20 below.
Honan gave his nod to Clare and Kilkenny. And while he didn't come ready for a Munster vs Leinster debate, he still gave as good as he got.
"I didn't have my statistics ready for this Leinster-Munster debate now, James did, but I'd come back to you this way and say that if you take the two provincial finals this weekend, I'd say Limerick and Clare are the two stronger teams than Galway and Kilkenny."
"Fair enough," says Ryall, "I'll agree on that."
Whatever you're having, there's no denying that it's going to be a great provincial final weekend this weekend coming.