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Published 14:39 7 May 2018 BST
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"The perception of Ulster and the perception of Leinster... then when you actually break it down, there's not an awful lot between them," he said on The GAA Hour. "It's the fact that Ulster have three teams and Leinster have one but the three teams in Ulster are way below Leinster's best."Cian Ward put it another way.
"If you swapped Dublin and took any of those three (Monaghan, Tyrone and Donegal) and put them into Leinster, the Leinster championship would be very competitive," the Meath man said. "If you swapped Dublin with Monaghan, Tyrone or Donegal, you'd have a seriously competitive Leinster championship and everybody in Leinster would think that they could win it."

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