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Published 14:20 11 Nov 2015 GMT
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But there are clearer points you can look at. At the end of it all.
In the midst of contract talks and O'Neill's future, the Derry man said he would absolutely be open to staying on with the team. And he seems to be thinking that way anyway.
"I'd obviously like, at some stage or another, to introduce a group of younger lads who are capable of taking over from these older players. Regardless of whether it's Friday and Monday night, or whether it's France as their last time, I think there is a set of players here well into their 30s that need replacing - they will not mind me saying that.
"If that's the case, we want to replace them with really top quality, younger players coming through who can take their place at international level almost immediately. That's important. In terms of progress, if we qualify, I think regardless of what people say, that will very obviously be progression.
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